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		<title>By: Abdul Sumar</title>
		<link>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-30494</link>
		<author>Abdul Sumar</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful and easy to understand article, thanks! To clarify your point about an IRA to IRA rollover, yes you will never indeed see the money, and this has its obvious advantages. Here's an excerpt from 

"When you leave your current employer, they will send you a check for your fully vested 401k retirement savings that you have accumulated. This is treated as a cash out transaction and your employer will be required to withhold a 20% tax amount, leaving you with only 80% of your cash. This is NOT what you want to do! Furthermore, you will be required to pay a 10% early withdrawal penalty if you are under the age of 55 and withdraw your 401k retirement savings as cash.

To avoid this cash out transaction, you must arrange for a Direct 401k rollover. Also known as a trustee to trustee 401k rollover, this rollover will instruct your old employer to make out a check in the name of your new 401k plan manager or "custodian" as they call it. This way, you will not be getting any cash. Your 401k funds will be sent to your new 401k custodian. Ask your new 401k custodian exactly how they want to receive this payment. Usually it will be like "Investment Banking Corporation, for the benefit of Peter James..."
Source: http://www.401klookup.com/rollovers-401k.html

The next step after this will be to inform your former employer's retirement plan admin that you are making a direct rollover of your funds to your new account. The admin will ask how you want this check to be styled &#38; printed. As soon as you receive the check, you should deposit it into your new IRA. There is a 60 day limit within which you must deposit this check to your new IRA or 401k, otherwise you will be charged tax on it, as well as a 10% early withdrawal penalty."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very useful and easy to understand article, thanks! To clarify your point about an <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> to <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> rollover, yes you will never indeed see the money, and this has its obvious advantages. Here&#8217;s an excerpt from </p>
<p>&#8220;When you leave your current employer, they will send you a check for your fully vested 401k retirement savings that you have accumulated. This is treated as a cash out transaction and your employer will be required to withhold a 20% tax amount, leaving you with only 80% of your cash. This is NOT what you want to do! Furthermore, you will be required to pay a 10% early withdrawal penalty if you are under the age of 55 and withdraw your 401k retirement savings as cash.</p>
<p>To avoid this cash out transaction, you must arrange for a Direct 401k rollover. Also known as a trustee to trustee 401k rollover, this rollover will instruct your old employer to make out a check in the name of your new 401k plan manager or &#8220;custodian&#8221; as they call it. This way, you will not be getting any cash. Your 401k funds will be sent to your new 401k custodian. Ask your new 401k custodian exactly how they want to receive this payment. Usually it will be like &#8220;Investment Banking Corporation, for the benefit of Peter James&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Source: <a href="http://www.401klookup.com/rollovers-401k.html" >http://www.401klookup.com/rollovers-401k.html</a></p>
<p>The next step after this will be to inform your former employer&#8217;s retirement plan admin that you are making a direct rollover of your funds to your new account. The admin will ask how you want this check to be styled &amp; printed. As soon as you receive the check, you should deposit it into your new <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym>. There is a 60 day limit within which you must deposit this check to your new <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> or 401k, otherwise you will be charged tax on it, as well as a 10% early withdrawal penalty.&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-19963</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bret Frohlich</title>
		<link>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-19069</link>
		<author>Bret Frohlich</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-19069</guid>
		<description>I just wanted to mention that 401K roll-overs can defnitely have some hiccups and you have to be very careful.

I left some money in a 401K plan after I left an employer and then the company almost went out of business.  Even though, the money in the plan was invested at a bank, the company has to approve any transfers.  In my research on the Internet I read a lot of horror stories from people trying to recover their 401K savings.  Luckily I got mine out in time.

When I left my last employer, they shorted me just under $900 on the roll-over.  They said I wasn't vested for that amount, which was inaccurate.  Two years later, I'm still getting statements and my $845 is still stuck in their plan.  I may have to file a complaint just to get the rest of my money.

Also, if you are married and live in a community property state, you will need to get your spouse to sign and you will have to have it notarized.

So, my advice is to handle the roll-over soon after leaving an employer and take control of your own retirement savings.

BTW, I also rolled-over to Etrade and they are great.

Bret Frohlich
www.bretfrohlich.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to mention that 401K roll-overs can defnitely have some hiccups and you have to be very careful.</p>
<p>I left some money in a 401K plan after I left an employer and then the company almost went out of business.  Even though, the money in the plan was invested at a bank, the company has to approve any transfers.  In my research on the Internet I read a lot of horror stories from people trying to recover their 401K savings.  Luckily I got mine out in time.</p>
<p>When I left my last employer, they shorted me just under $900 on the roll-over.  They said I wasn&#8217;t vested for that amount, which was inaccurate.  Two years later, I&#8217;m still getting statements and my $845 is still stuck in their plan.  I may have to file a complaint just to get the rest of my money.</p>
<p>Also, if you are married and live in a community property state, you will need to get your spouse to sign and you will have to have it notarized.</p>
<p>So, my advice is to handle the roll-over soon after leaving an employer and take control of your own retirement savings.</p>
<p><acronym title="By The Way">BTW</acronym>, I also rolled-over to Etrade and they are great.</p>
<p>Bret Frohlich<br />
<a href="http://www.bretfrohlich.com" >www.bretfrohlich.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: KMC</title>
		<link>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-18871</link>
		<author>KMC</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, that definitely doesn't sound right to me.  I think maybe the rep confused you about rollover IRA rules versus Roth IRA rules.  In a Roth, you CAN withdraw contributions pentalty free (and tax free) at any time since you've already paid tax on them once.  See my post &lt;a 
href="http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/the-roth-ira-as-emergency-fund/" &gt;  &gt;"Roth IRA as emergency fund" &lt;/a&gt;"Roth IRA as emergency fund" for an explanation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, that definitely doesn&#8217;t sound right to me.  I think maybe the rep confused you about rollover <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> rules versus Roth <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> rules.  In a Roth, you CAN withdraw contributions pentalty free (and tax free) at any time since you&#8217;ve already paid tax on them once.  See my post <a href="http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/the-roth-ira-as-emergency-fund/" >  >&#8221;Roth <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> as emergency fund&#8221; </a>&#8220;Roth <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> as emergency fund&#8221; for an explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://advancedpersonalfinance.com/how-to-rollover-your-401k/#comment-18784</link>
		<author>Ray</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently rolled my 401(k) plan into a Traditional IRA at E*Trade.  I have been told that any CONTRIBUTIONS I made into my retirement plan can be withdrawn any time, penalty free, with the understanding that I would have to pay tax on the money, just like any withdrawal from a Traditional IRA.  My question is, how does E*Trade know what were CONTRIBUTIONS and what were GAINS?  Did my previous 401(k) plan instituion send E*Trade paperwork that outlines these figures?  I do know that my roll-over money was sent directly to me, and then I forwarded it along to E*Trade.  Any help on this would be appreciated.  I'm 27 years old and would really like to use some of the retirement contribution money for the downpayment on my first house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently rolled my 401(k) plan into a Traditional <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym> at E*Trade.  I have been told that any CONTRIBUTIONS I made into my retirement plan can be withdrawn any time, penalty free, with the understanding that I would have to pay tax on the money, just like any withdrawal from a Traditional <acronym title="Individual Retirement Account">IRA</acronym>.  My question is, how does E*Trade know what were CONTRIBUTIONS and what were GAINS?  Did my previous 401(k) plan instituion send E*Trade paperwork that outlines these figures?  I do know that my roll-over money was sent directly to me, and then I forwarded it along to E*Trade.  Any help on this would be appreciated.  I&#8217;m 27 years old and would really like to use some of the retirement contribution money for the downpayment on my first house.</p>
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